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		<title>By: Joel</title>
		<link>http://www.pda-247.com/wordpress/2010/02/why-do-some-hate-apple/#comment-9336</link>
		<dc:creator>Joel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 21:00:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paul I love the article &quot;Warning! iCandy will damage your brain!&quot; in that link of yours...

So true, I know here most banks only support mobile online banking on the iphone, with really bad web sites that look terrible only any resolution other than the iphones.. very badly designed.. others actually have no mobile site just an iphone application, apprently no other smartphone users want mobile banking..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paul I love the article &#8220;Warning! iCandy will damage your brain!&#8221; in that link of yours&#8230;</p>
<p>So true, I know here most banks only support mobile online banking on the iphone, with really bad web sites that look terrible only any resolution other than the iphones.. very badly designed.. others actually have no mobile site just an iphone application, apprently no other smartphone users want mobile banking..</p>
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		<title>By: Paul M</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 13:48:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>why do people knock apple users? I think you hit the nailed square on the head, it&#039;s the obsessional blindness and unwillingness to see any fault whatsoever. Even when engadget reported their latest iMac arrived damaged with a possible design flaw/weakness, apple fans almost refused to acknowledge that such things were possible.

http://www.quirksmode.org/blog/archives/2010/02/the_iphone_obse.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>why do people knock apple users? I think you hit the nailed square on the head, it&#8217;s the obsessional blindness and unwillingness to see any fault whatsoever. Even when engadget reported their latest iMac arrived damaged with a possible design flaw/weakness, apple fans almost refused to acknowledge that such things were possible.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.quirksmode.org/blog/archives/2010/02/the_iphone_obse.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.quirksmode.org/blog/archives/2010/02/the_iphone_obse.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: JLP</title>
		<link>http://www.pda-247.com/wordpress/2010/02/why-do-some-hate-apple/#comment-9312</link>
		<dc:creator>JLP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 00:21:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think every product/meme/etc. has it&#039;s &quot;fanboys&quot;.  Fanboys, IMHO are those who appear to blindly follow a group or thought or political party, or buy a product based on the surface facts/info/marketing/etc. As long as a person can defend their opinion or excitement for a product without using only talking points, it is unfair to be labeled as such. It&#039;s good to like something strongly, or feel strongly about something you believe in, but it&#039;s even better to be able to have a adult conversation about it without getting defensive or proselytizing.  Those two latter actions are what makes a &#039;fanboy&#039; annoying and causes people to get childish and label someone as one in frustration.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think every product/meme/etc. has it&#8217;s &#8220;fanboys&#8221;.  Fanboys, IMHO are those who appear to blindly follow a group or thought or political party, or buy a product based on the surface facts/info/marketing/etc. As long as a person can defend their opinion or excitement for a product without using only talking points, it is unfair to be labeled as such. It&#8217;s good to like something strongly, or feel strongly about something you believe in, but it&#8217;s even better to be able to have a adult conversation about it without getting defensive or proselytizing.  Those two latter actions are what makes a &#8216;fanboy&#8217; annoying and causes people to get childish and label someone as one in frustration.</p>
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		<title>By: vboelema</title>
		<link>http://www.pda-247.com/wordpress/2010/02/why-do-some-hate-apple/#comment-9309</link>
		<dc:creator>vboelema</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 22:02:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Huh?  Loads of people who regularly post here use an Apple iProduct of some sort.  My first laptop was an Apple!  I spent many happy years with Apple due to my job as a teacher in NZ, where Apple rules education.  I love my iPod and iTunes.  I like this site because the people who come here use a bit of everything, and they tend to be fairly realistic about the short comings and positives of the products they&#039;re using.  I gather you&#039;re pulling my leg though, and that I&#039;m the idiot (said with a lovely Irish accent) who fell for it.  Nice one!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Huh?  Loads of people who regularly post here use an Apple iProduct of some sort.  My first laptop was an Apple!  I spent many happy years with Apple due to my job as a teacher in NZ, where Apple rules education.  I love my iPod and iTunes.  I like this site because the people who come here use a bit of everything, and they tend to be fairly realistic about the short comings and positives of the products they&#8217;re using.  I gather you&#8217;re pulling my leg though, and that I&#8217;m the idiot (said with a lovely Irish accent) who fell for it.  Nice one!</p>
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		<title>By: BillGatesstolemyshoe</title>
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		<dc:creator>BillGatesstolemyshoe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 20:19:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This &quot;stockholm syndrome&quot; that Windows people have whereby they have conveniently forgotton about the many years that we saw Microsoft behaving in a totally appalling fashion (and they probably still are) is remarkable and then to have the temerity to semi-accuse Apple of being the same almost defies belief. Pot..kettle...black etc etc
My view is this and it is just my view....PDA247 used to be a nice site to visit but in the past year has started to degenerate into a cosy little club for people with a rather predictably sad and open hostility to Apple, it has become an Apple baiting site where some smug anti-Apple post appears and then all the usual suspects turn up to gleefully comment and confirm their own petty and irrational dislike. Probably from behind the comfort of their own souped up Dell beige box...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This &#8220;stockholm syndrome&#8221; that Windows people have whereby they have conveniently forgotton about the many years that we saw Microsoft behaving in a totally appalling fashion (and they probably still are) is remarkable and then to have the temerity to semi-accuse Apple of being the same almost defies belief. Pot..kettle&#8230;black etc etc<br />
My view is this and it is just my view&#8230;.PDA247 used to be a nice site to visit but in the past year has started to degenerate into a cosy little club for people with a rather predictably sad and open hostility to Apple, it has become an Apple baiting site where some smug anti-Apple post appears and then all the usual suspects turn up to gleefully comment and confirm their own petty and irrational dislike. Probably from behind the comfort of their own souped up Dell beige box&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: gavinfabl</title>
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		<dc:creator>gavinfabl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 19:34:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think anyone who has an &quot;Apple&quot; is a &quot;Banana&quot;. 

It&#039;s a joke, so keep your calm. Letting some steam off after long day.


Which platform is best - none - I use all of them but dependant on use, depends on form factor needed etc...

Is the iPhone 3gs the best smartphone. No. Is it very good . Yes.

The HD2 is still King. So keep dreaming.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think anyone who has an &#8220;Apple&#8221; is a &#8220;Banana&#8221;. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s a joke, so keep your calm. Letting some steam off after long day.</p>
<p>Which platform is best &#8211; none &#8211; I use all of them but dependant on use, depends on form factor needed etc&#8230;</p>
<p>Is the iPhone 3gs the best smartphone. No. Is it very good . Yes.</p>
<p>The HD2 is still King. So keep dreaming.</p>
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		<title>By: lazyboy</title>
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		<dc:creator>lazyboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 18:30:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Steve, Tonyk and Vboelema

Great posts. I see this type of behavior all over the web, and it sucks.</description>
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<p>Great posts. I see this type of behavior all over the web, and it sucks.</p>
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		<title>By: vboelema</title>
		<link>http://www.pda-247.com/wordpress/2010/02/why-do-some-hate-apple/#comment-9303</link>
		<dc:creator>vboelema</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 17:23:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The &quot;fanboy&quot; &quot;flammer&quot; &quot;troller&quot; stuff has seen me eventually leave various forums because it takes away from an intelligent discussion and the ability to learn anything new.  It gets a bit tedious and boring after a while having the same old people mouthing off at each other online.  It&#039;s not just in the Apple circles.  I have found the same on many Palm sites, Symbian sites and anything else that has some kind of &quot;enemy&quot; - be it real or imaginary.  Maybe it&#039;s human nature to find something to belong to, and then at the same time to find an enemy in relation to that belonging.  I did start reading an interesting book in this once, but I left it on the Tube and never bought it again.  &quot;The Lucifer Principle&quot; or something like that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The &#8220;fanboy&#8221; &#8220;flammer&#8221; &#8220;troller&#8221; stuff has seen me eventually leave various forums because it takes away from an intelligent discussion and the ability to learn anything new.  It gets a bit tedious and boring after a while having the same old people mouthing off at each other online.  It&#8217;s not just in the Apple circles.  I have found the same on many Palm sites, Symbian sites and anything else that has some kind of &#8220;enemy&#8221; &#8211; be it real or imaginary.  Maybe it&#8217;s human nature to find something to belong to, and then at the same time to find an enemy in relation to that belonging.  I did start reading an interesting book in this once, but I left it on the Tube and never bought it again.  &#8220;The Lucifer Principle&#8221; or something like that.</p>
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		<title>By: tonyk</title>
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		<dc:creator>tonyk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 16:30:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On one level I think a lot of it is school playground rivalry. It&#039;s as old as the earliest days of home computing. Spectrum v Commodore, Amiga v Atari ST, Palm vs Pocket PC. For many of us I think it&#039;s just a case of &#039;horses for courses&#039;. Apple will always delivery style and simplicity at the expense of openness and price. I&#039;ve own an ipod for quite a while and get a lot of enjoyment from it. I like it&#039;s styling and simplicity and my wife isn&#039;t afraid to use it (because it&#039;s Apple perhaps?). For other devices I don&#039;t tend to look at Apple goods though I can certainly see their appeal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On one level I think a lot of it is school playground rivalry. It&#8217;s as old as the earliest days of home computing. Spectrum v Commodore, Amiga v Atari ST, Palm vs Pocket PC. For many of us I think it&#8217;s just a case of &#8216;horses for courses&#8217;. Apple will always delivery style and simplicity at the expense of openness and price. I&#8217;ve own an ipod for quite a while and get a lot of enjoyment from it. I like it&#8217;s styling and simplicity and my wife isn&#8217;t afraid to use it (because it&#8217;s Apple perhaps?). For other devices I don&#8217;t tend to look at Apple goods though I can certainly see their appeal.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 14:30:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Apple seems to polarize people - not really sure why.

I&#039;m not blinded to the faults of my iPhone, but it does do a lot right.

I was recently over at a tech forum for an open source software product - and the flaming people received if they were posting ANYTHING negative was unreal. NO software is perfect; someone trying to post at the best of their ability the situation they experienced; and the top 10 comments were accusations about how incompetent they were, with little or no constructive suggestions on how to address their problem!

Even this string seems to show this polarizing attitude.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apple seems to polarize people &#8211; not really sure why.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not blinded to the faults of my iPhone, but it does do a lot right.</p>
<p>I was recently over at a tech forum for an open source software product &#8211; and the flaming people received if they were posting ANYTHING negative was unreal. NO software is perfect; someone trying to post at the best of their ability the situation they experienced; and the top 10 comments were accusations about how incompetent they were, with little or no constructive suggestions on how to address their problem!</p>
<p>Even this string seems to show this polarizing attitude.</p>
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		<title>By: lazyboy</title>
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		<dc:creator>lazyboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 14:17:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Get over it, Zelph.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Get over it, Zelph.</p>
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		<title>By: Zelph</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zelph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 13:43:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just hate the Big Brother attitude. &quot;You don&#039;t need apps on your phone. Web apps are the wave of the future.&quot; &quot;You don&#039;t need no stinkin&#039; cut and paste.&quot; &quot;People no longer like to read.&quot; (All positions that they flipped on.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just hate the Big Brother attitude. &#8220;You don&#8217;t need apps on your phone. Web apps are the wave of the future.&#8221; &#8220;You don&#8217;t need no stinkin&#8217; cut and paste.&#8221; &#8220;People no longer like to read.&#8221; (All positions that they flipped on.)</p>
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		<title>By: Graham N</title>
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		<dc:creator>Graham N</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 11:30:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think you are right up to a point but I also think that things are changing. What I have noticed recently is the number of young people with Blackberries. They now talk about them as cool devices. Who would have thought that a couple of years ago?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you are right up to a point but I also think that things are changing. What I have noticed recently is the number of young people with Blackberries. They now talk about them as cool devices. Who would have thought that a couple of years ago?</p>
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		<title>By: lazyboy</title>
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		<dc:creator>lazyboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 11:17:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you strip out kids under the age of 14 and people over 65, 2 million would equate to 5% of the UK population. That&#039;s a VERY big deal considering that those are figures for only one carrier - O2. (Of course, some people have bought more than one iPhone.)

Yes, RIM sells a lot of units, but BlackBerries are available on multiple carriers, and a significant proportion of their sales are to corporations who buy lots of cheap, sometimes outdated, models in bulk. Strip out those units from RIM&#039;s figures and perhaps you get a more realistic picture of how the battle for the hearts and minds of consumers is actually playing out.

Bottom line: perhaps there is a reason why other phone companies are trying to market their phones as &quot;iPhone killers.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you strip out kids under the age of 14 and people over 65, 2 million would equate to 5% of the UK population. That&#8217;s a VERY big deal considering that those are figures for only one carrier &#8211; O2. (Of course, some people have bought more than one iPhone.)</p>
<p>Yes, RIM sells a lot of units, but BlackBerries are available on multiple carriers, and a significant proportion of their sales are to corporations who buy lots of cheap, sometimes outdated, models in bulk. Strip out those units from RIM&#8217;s figures and perhaps you get a more realistic picture of how the battle for the hearts and minds of consumers is actually playing out.</p>
<p>Bottom line: perhaps there is a reason why other phone companies are trying to market their phones as &#8220;iPhone killers.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: AndrewP</title>
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		<dc:creator>AndrewP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 11:03:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s Apple&#039;s business practices and &quot;walled-garden&quot; approach to the iPhone / iPods that annoy me.  While I&#039;m fully supportive of Apple refusing to sell &quot;objectionable&quot; applications in their store if they don&#039;t want to (it&#039;s their store after all), then I think they should provide a legal way for individuals to load the applications of their choice.  If I want to &quot;Shake Babies&quot;, sick as it is, it should be my choice.

I&#039;m just amazed they get away with it.  Can you imagine Ford saying that you can only buy Ford-approved accessories from the Ford store for your Ford car?

Andrew</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s Apple&#8217;s business practices and &#8220;walled-garden&#8221; approach to the iPhone / iPods that annoy me.  While I&#8217;m fully supportive of Apple refusing to sell &#8220;objectionable&#8221; applications in their store if they don&#8217;t want to (it&#8217;s their store after all), then I think they should provide a legal way for individuals to load the applications of their choice.  If I want to &#8220;Shake Babies&#8221;, sick as it is, it should be my choice.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m just amazed they get away with it.  Can you imagine Ford saying that you can only buy Ford-approved accessories from the Ford store for your Ford car?</p>
<p>Andrew</p>
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